Voddie Baucham & James White answer questions regarding homosexuality & abortion + more [5 short Wretched TV clips]

Baucham and White
Voddie Baucham & James White

Wretched TV – with Todd Friel” has featured some clips from their daily update archive, over the past several weeks, featuring Voddie Baucham and James White.

Below are the clips with timeline:

James White’s scary 5 year prediction for the church [7 min. vid.]:

  • 0:00 – 2:10 “Where do you see the church, with its relationship to the government in five years regarding the issue on homosexuality?”
  • 2:11 – 4:20 “[W]here do you see the relationship of Christianity, specifically the local church now, in ten years with the state?”
  • 4:21 – 6:27 “Is there anything that the Evangelical Christian who is hearing this can do?”

Three types of homosexuals??? [4 min. vid.]:

  • 0:00 – 0:29 “Would you stand on a platform with… a Mormon, with a Rabbi, with a Imam to talk about the importance of coming together on the life issue or the marriage issue?”
  • 0:30 – 4:03  “There are three types of homosexuals…  [the first two groups] are not the enemy… and they are actually the harvest field therefore I show them love?”


Voddie Baucham and Scott Kluesendorf: Should Christians be incrementalists re. abortion? [5 min. vid.]:

  • 0:00 – 1:34 What would Voddie say to the person who insist “No incrementalism, it’s everything or nothing!”?
  • 1:35 – 3:20 “What do you say then to the person who responds, “Incrementalism? We don’t do that with other forms of murder. We don’t do that with rape. ‘Hey, we’re against rape BUT we’ll take this piece of legislation that doesn’t completely outlaw it…'”?
    • 3:28 – 4:56 Scott Kluesendorf continues to answer the above

Voddie Baucham and Scott Kluesendorf: Should we publicly display pictures of aborted babies? [4 min. vid.]:

  • 0:27 – 1:24 Scott Kluesendorf answers
  • 1:25 –  2:37 Voddie Baucham answers

Voddie Baucham and James White: Should we call people who have had abortions “murderers?” [3 min. vid.]:

  • 0:35 – 2:02 James White answers
  • 2:20 – 3:46 Voddie Baucham answers

New England Reformed Baptists & the Historical Foundations of American Liberty [Engel]

CJay Engel, The Reformed (Baptist) Libertarian
CJay Engel, The Reformed (Baptist) Libertarian

Blogging at Reformed Libertarian, CJay Engel summarizes and comments on Ronald Baines’ recent JIRBS piece:

This year’s Journal of the Institute of Reformed Baptist Studies (JIRBS) featured an important essay written by Pastor Ronald Baines entitled “Separating God’s Two Kingdoms: Two Kingdom Theology among New England Baptist in the Early Republic.”  The relevance of the essay to this site is profound.  The Two Kingdom/Neo-Kuyperian debate has swept through the Reformed Christian world lately and the impact that this topic has on Christians and their political theory is surely obvious.  This debate is not new.  As Baines shows in the essay, this very struggle among Christians was present during the years contemporary to the birth of the United States.


JIRBS 2014Baines begins by pointing to the story of “Daniel Merrill, pastor of the Baptist Church in Sedwick, Maine” who was educated as a paedobaptist (infant baptism) and only later, after seeking to refute the credobaptist (“believer’s baptism”) position, became a Regular Baptist (Calvinistic Baptists were called “Regular Baptists” to distinguish them from “General Baptists” who were Arminians).  The reason why Baines starts here is for the purpose of showing the striking difference between the Baptist and the paedobaptist in their understanding of the kingdom of God.  In today’s world, often the difference between the believer’s baptism position and the infant baptism position seems surface level and a bit trivial, a small detail among others.  But one must never fail to look beyond the surface to the underlying foundations of a church sacrament like baptism.  The two positions are not chosen arbitrarily and without purpose.  There is an important and elemental distinction in regards to the nature of God’s kingdom and His covenants with men.

Pastor Ron Baines
Pastor Ron Baines

Using the history presented by Baines as a launchpad, Engel makes some ties between the beliefs of early American Baptists and the aims of his own website, Reformed Libertarian:

The Reformed Libertarian vision seeks to expand on the good work of these Christians who maintained that the kingdom of God will not –indeed cannot — be furthered by the use of coercion in society.  The Moral law is the standard by which God, the great and ultimate and holy Judge will measure the righteousness of his human creation.  For those who are not in Christ, judgement is yet to come; and Christ has already received that wrath for all who believe.  Let not the State seek to play the role of Christ by aiming to uphold the Moral Law of God in civil society.  Nor should it uphold Israel’s Judicial Law.  Such would be a theological impossibility.  This is the vision of the Reformed Libertarian.

You can read the entire post here [9 min. readout] .

‘The Foundation of the Foundation’ [PDF] The Pastoral importance of the Doctrine of the Trinity in 2LCF 2:3


As we discussed on a previous podcast, the 2014 ARBCA Circular Letter was “The Foundation of the Foundation: The Pastoral importance of the Doctrine of the Trinity in 2LCF 2:3” by Pastor Jason Walter. You can now find it online.

Pastor Jason Walter
Pastor Jason Walter

Here is the introduction:

For good or for ill, over the last couple of decades Evangelical Christians seem to have renewed  their interest in the doctrine of the Trinity and its significance not only within Christian theology but perhaps even more so within the Christian life. The buzzwords of recent Trinitarian discussion are “relevant” and “practical,” and the participants in that discussion write as though their audiences ought to be surprised to find the doctrine characterized as such. Of all people, we as confessional Reformed Baptists should not be surprised to learn that there are concrete, practical ramifications to belief in the Holy Trinity: after all, we confess explicitly that we believe the doctrine to be “the foundation of all our communion with God, and comfortable dependence on Him” (2LCF 2:3). But does even the language of our own Confession at this point still surprise us? We confess it. Do we believe it? Do we even understand it? With the true Church throughout the centuries, we know the Trinity to be of great and grave doctrinal importance. But do we appreciate its pastoral importance as well?


The task of this letter is to suggest an answer to two questions: “In the light of 2LCF 2:3, why is the doctrine of the Trinity the foundation of our communion with God and comfortable dependence on him, and  how may we encourage this among our people?” We will therefore begin with an examination of what the Confession means at this point and then move on to suggest some practical applications to the role of the pastor in bringing this truth to bear on the life of his congregation.

10-Page DOCX | PDF:

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You will also recall that Pastor Walter discussed the doctrine of the Trinity on the following two episodes of Redeemer Radio:

Part 1 [mp3]:

Part 2 [mp3]:

4 Short Interviews from ARBCA feat. Perron, Cosby, Emadi + more [VIDEO]

Note: These are from 4-5 months ago, but our Bapti-Bot just happened upon them:

ARBCA Vimeo Page

From the ARBCA Vimeo page:

Interview with Michael Emadi [church planter in Ireland]

New Pastor in La Alborada Colombia

ARBCA Coordinator visited Stan Line in November 2013 and interviewed many Reformed Baptist pastors in Bogota and Medillin. The Grace and Love church had just called a new pastor, Augusto Ramirez, and in this video Stan Line introduces him to you.

Interview with Rob Cosby

Interview with Raymond Perron

James White Encouraging Christians to be Truthful, More on Textual Criticism, Slippery Slopes + more [Dividing Line Audio & Video]

James White’s podcast/webcast, The Dividing Line, from Aug. 28, 2014 dealt with a wide range of theological and cultural issues.

Here’s the audio program:

And the video:



Happy National Bow-Tie Day!
Happy National Bow-Tie Day!

Audio timeline:

  • 03:30 – 15:29 We started out with an update on what is going on down in Australia with our brother David Ould and a reality TV show he did.  We hope to have David on, probably on 9/9, to discuss what is going on with the “spin” and the cultural response to a Christian witness regarding homosexuality.
  • 15:30 – 49:00 …discussed Yasir Qadhi and his response to ISIS and a recent article applying unfair standards to him. (mp3 tag: James corrects the record and encourages Christians to be sure of the truth of their sources when discussing Islam.)
  • 49:15 – 1:20:19 …a discussion of two textual variants.  That part has to be watched to have any idea what I’m talking about. (This is related to Jeff Riddle’s interaction with James White on Textual Criticism. Here is the screenflow of his first response to this that he mentions in the show)

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Video snippets from yesterday’s “Open Theism Debate” between James White & Bob Enyart

open theism debate

Alpha & Omega Ministries:

As we await the full video footage from Denver a member of the audience posted clips of the cross examinations last night. Enjoy.

Bob Enyart Cross Examines James White:

James White Cross Examines Bob Enyart:

James White’s Closing Remarks:


In case you missed it, here is James White’s Video Message for Bob Enyart Prior to Our Debate in Denver:


Update: On the July 11, 2014 Dividing Line James White gives his post-debate report starting at the 15:56 minute mark:



Friday Funny: A Study of Flowers on a very kind Radio Free Geneva [James White] :D

black radio free geneva

(Besides a revamped Radio Free Geneva intro!) James White takes Radio Free Geneva to a whole new level.

Realizing some people have accused him of not being the nicest on Radio Free Genevas he decided to go above and beyond in the niceness category.

“How nice is it going to be? It’s going to be so nice that we are going to have a study of flowers on Radio Free Geneva today.” :D

James White Study of Flowers

James White:

Let’s just say that today’s Radio Free Geneva episode was…unique.  Got the idea of doing a “study of flowers” this morning.  What flowers?  Well, the tulip, of course, then the Rose, and then, due to the Connect316 guys, the poinsettia!  Hope you enjoy it!


I dare you to try to get through the first 5 minutes without a chuckle!


Have a really nice day!


How Much Does Your Church Give? [James Renihan]

” I am always blessed by the faithful contributions which come in from our congregations. But perhaps there is an area where our giving could be increased…”

Dr. James Renihan
Dr. James Renihan

After giving a personal story James Renihan concludes:

Pastors, do you encourage your men to consider the gospel ministry? Do you spend personal time with them and encourage them to pray about this? Do your elders likewise seek to press this matter upon your young men? Do they urge these men to consider the possibility of Christ’s call? And what about your people? Do they esteem ministers? Will they rejoice when one of their own gives himself to serve the Lord in the ministry? I am convinced that our churches must place a higher priority on cultivating their men for service in the church.

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Recently uploaded debates of James White v. Islamic apologists [Video]

The Trinity & Tawid Debate – White vs Bux

[Oct. 4, 2013] James White debates Islamic apologist Yusuf Bux at the University of Johannesburg in South Africa.

Is the New Testament a Reliable Record of Jesus’ Teachings? White vs Ismail

James White debates Islamic scholar Yusuf Ismail on the reliability of the New Testament and the teachings of Jesus. This debate was part 1 of a 2 part debate held on October 1, 2013 in Potchefstroom South Africa.

Is the Quran a Reliable Record of the Teachings of Muhammad White vs Ismail

James White debates Islamic scholar Yusuf Ismail on the reliability of the Qur’an and the teachings of Muhammad. This debate was part 2 of a 2 part debate held on October 1, 2013 in Potchefstroom South Africa.

Is the Bible the Word of God? White vs Awal

[June 21, 2010]

I laid out the necessary parameters for a fair, truthful, honest, and scholarly discussion, insisting that we must differentiate between questions of textual corruption, translational issue, historical issues, and theological issues. I went through the testimony to the text of the NT, its breadth and antiquity, and pointed out that the Qur’an likewise has a textual history, and contains textual variants (a fact Sheikh Awal never even tried to refute).


As soon as Sheikh Awal stood up—he began the process of confusing all of those categories. His basic presentation was that the Bible says things about prophets that should not be said (David and Bathsheba, for example), and therefore, this just can’t be the Word of God. He repeated many of his standard errors, claiming that the canon was determined by the Council of Nicea, for example (a common myth that has no historical foundation).


I was able to refute each and every one of his opening arguments in my twelve minute rebuttal, and even had time to give him a gift (an NET/NA27 diglot). I almost got through all the points he raised in his own rebuttal in the five minute rebuttal that followed that.


The cross-examination was very difficult. My opponent refused to engage the topic meaningfully, often answering a question other than the one I asked, for completely failing to provide any meaningful response at all. It was a clear illustration of the maxim, “Inconsistency is the sign of a failed argument.” If anything was proven clearly, it was that Sheikh Awal uses one standard for Christianity, and a completely different standard for Islam. By the end of the evening, everyone in the audience could see that very, very clearly.

– James

Voddie Baucham Traces the Line of the Promised Seed [5 min. video]


Voddie Baucham will be joining us next week for our 2014 National Conference. In 2011 he spoke at our Fall Conference at Reformation Bible College and traced the line of the Promised Seed from Genesis to the Gospels.

Transcript | Entire sermon: “The Rescuer” [Genesis 41, Joseph & Jesus]

Some of the material we touched on with him on Interview #30 – Joseph & The Gospel of Many Colors: Reading an Old Story in a New Way

PodcastPromo30 Voddie Baucham Joseph

“The Church: From a Biblical Perspective” 2014 G3 Conf. [Video] Feat. Conrad Mbewe, Voddie Baucham + more


The G3 Conference that took place  last month finished posting all the sessions last week. From their 2014 page:

The church was founded by Jesus Christ and serves the purpose of bringing glory, honor, and praise to God.  In our present day landscape of American evangelicalism, the church is being morphed into concert halls, entertainment stages, and country clubs.  The younger generation today is being raised without any connection or commitment to the church of Jesus Christ.  In fact, many churches are forming Saturday night services and minimizing worship opportunities in order to accommodate the pace of our American families.  The culture is trying to change the church into something modern, convenient, cheap, and non-intrusive.  In the process, doctrine has taken a backseat to pragmatics and the pulpit has been replaced with entertainment programs.  From coffee shop churches to Internet churches – there is a massive problem that must be addressed in our modern culture.  Let us not forget that while all of these modern advancements take place that are morphing the foundation of the church, hundreds of thousands of small dying churches are preparing to breathe their last breath.  The subject of the church is a vital issue that must be addressed and it must be addressed from the counsel of sacred Scriptures.


Josh Buice | The Church Is God’s Will For Your Life” – Ephesians 4

Tim Challies | “The Radically Normal Life of the Christian” – 1 Thessalonians 4

Conrad Mbewe | “The Worshipping Church” – John 4

Steven Lawson | “The Church – Chosen and Called by God” – Romans 8

David Miller | “The Founding and Founder of the Church” – Matthew 16

Steven Lawson | “The Church’s Call to Biblical Preaching” – 2 Timothy 4

Q&A Panel Discussion

John Snyder | “Beginning our Ecclesiology with the Self-Revealed Character of God”Selected Texts

Conrad Mbewe | “Making Disciples vs. Baptizing Goats – The Mission of the Church” – Acts 16:11-15

Voddie Baucham | “The Modern Church’s Sissified Jesus – A Need for Proper Christology in Our Ecclesiology” – Revelation 1:4-6

David Miller | “The Excellency of Christ” – Hebrews 1

Voddie Baucham | “Faithful Men Disciple and Send Faithful Men” – 2 Timothy 2

Ask Voddie Baucham your Ecclesiology Questions [by 5pm EST Today]

G3 Conference:


Voddie Bauchum Bow Tie
Dr. Voddie Baucham

An ice storm prevented Dr. Voddie Baucham from arriving on campus for the 2014 G3 Conference (see archive here) until after the Q&A session had already ended. Knowing that we would address issues related to church government, church planting, and other issues related to ecclesiology, he approached me after his final session to close the conference and wanted to know if there was a way he could field some questions from the attendees. Due to immediate travel schedules, we couldn’t squeeze another session in at the end of the conference, so we have worked it out for a Q&A to be held online.


The format:


1. We will take questions for the next 24 hours (until 5pm EST on Tuesday – 2/4/14).


2. Write your questions in the comment section below or e-mail to admin@G3Conference.com.


3. The questions will be submitted to Dr. Baucham for review.


4. We will post his answers on this blog and announce it once the post has been added to the site.

See some of the questions already asked.